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	<title>Comments on: Office Communications Server 2007 R2 Group Chat Deployment &#8211; Part 1</title>
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	<description>Just another IT guy!</description>
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		<title>By: Yaşar Çuğalır &#187; Windows 2008 R2 üzerinde OCS 2007 R2 Group Chat Server kurulumu</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2009/03/08/office-communications-server-2007-r2-group-chat-deployment-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10310</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaşar Çuğalır &#187; Windows 2008 R2 üzerinde OCS 2007 R2 Group Chat Server kurulumu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Server as you normally would on any other operating system. Elan&#8217;s guide is helpful for this (Part 1 / Part 2). 5. Install the OCS Core update from here and the UC API update from here. (If those [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Server as you normally would on any other operating system. Elan&#8217;s guide is helpful for this (Part 1 / Part 2). 5. Install the OCS Core update from here and the UC API update from here. (If those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Tiensivu's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2009/03/08/office-communications-server-2007-r2-group-chat-deployment-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10301</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Tiensivu's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Installing OCS 2007 R2 Group Chat Server on Server 2008 R2...&lt;/strong&gt;

To begin, follow the instructions here for the usual Server 2008 R2 workaround/fixes for Server 2008 R2 and OCS 2007 R2. 1. From an elevated PowerShell prompt: Import-Module ServerManager [Enter] 2. Install the prerequisites for Group Chat Server wit...</description>
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<p>To begin, follow the instructions here for the usual Server 2008 R2 workaround/fixes for Server 2008 R2 and OCS 2007 R2. 1. From an elevated PowerShell prompt: Import-Module ServerManager [Enter] 2. Install the prerequisites for Group Chat Server wit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Rozumny</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2009/03/08/office-communications-server-2007-r2-group-chat-deployment-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10237</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Rozumny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw Elan. Your site rocks. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with others! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw Elan. Your site rocks. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with others!</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Rozumny</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2009/03/08/office-communications-server-2007-r2-group-chat-deployment-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10236</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Rozumny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a former Microsoft FTE I will tell you that international support was never a priority. The money is made on US versions. I would bre thankful that this appears to really be changing since I left in &#039;08. Exchange 2010 has tremendous changes for language support, in ease of installation and availablity. GC was thrown together at the last minute and shoe-horedn into R2. Wave 14 will be better. 
 
vic </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a former Microsoft FTE I will tell you that international support was never a priority. The money is made on US versions. I would bre thankful that this appears to really be changing since I left in &#039;08. Exchange 2010 has tremendous changes for language support, in ease of installation and availablity. GC was thrown together at the last minute and shoe-horedn into R2. Wave 14 will be better. </p>
<p>vic</p>
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		<title>By: Chaosnature</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaosnature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

1st let me say Great! guild,

i followed this guild and i eventually am able to complete the intallation, however i am unable to start any of the 2 services, they start and stop , 1st i was using a certificate with my oce server pool, then i lately change it to another certifictae with the GC server name and sip.domain name and ocspool name as SAN.

this is the error i get from the event log:

The Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007 R2, Group Chat Server MGCLOOKU could not stop due to an exception Object reference not set to an instance of an object..

An error MGCLOOKU is stopping due to an unhandled exception.
has occurred due to an unhandled exception Object reference not set to an instance of an object.. Stack trace:
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.Performance.MessageProcessingPerformanceCounterManager.ClearPerformanceCounters()
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.Lookup.LookupServer.ClearPerformanceCounters()
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.ServerBase.Start()
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.MAServiceBase.startServer()
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.MAServiceBase.createAndStartServer()
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart().

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance

on 07 Mar 2010 at 4:02 pm34Chaosnature
Update to my service none starting issues, 1st i changed the account service to administrator which had more rights than other account , and started the services and they started, but they only start one at a time, the two services would not stay on running at the same time, then i added all rights to the ocschat account and restarted the services again this time they started,

so i am not sure what account member is missing yet that stoped the GC services from starting, i will use process of elimination later to find that out….

but now i still cannot logon to the GC server as administrator
i get:

Cannot sign in. Your sign-in address, server settings, or password may be incorrect. If your sign in information is correct and the problem persists, please contact your system administrator.

and nothing on the GC Event log server, any ideas?

i also am now running the SQL on the same server as the GC, i previously was using the same as my OCS front end server,
Question,…what is the pool name when u are using an SQL server on the same GC server which is a memeber server? is it the FQDN of the server it self?….my OCS pool name is ocspoo.ct.com…..my GC server name is Main.ct.com….my GC instance i created was name GCPool on the member server. what then is the Pool name of this GC SQL? or do i have to create a pool using the installation cd? cos right now i had to fill in the gap using my ocs pool i created for my FE server…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>1st let me say Great! guild,</p>
<p>i followed this guild and i eventually am able to complete the intallation, however i am unable to start any of the 2 services, they start and stop , 1st i was using a certificate with my oce server pool, then i lately change it to another certifictae with the GC server name and sip.domain name and ocspool name as SAN.</p>
<p>this is the error i get from the event log:</p>
<p>The Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007 R2, Group Chat Server MGCLOOKU could not stop due to an exception Object reference not set to an instance of an object..</p>
<p>An error MGCLOOKU is stopping due to an unhandled exception.<br />
has occurred due to an unhandled exception Object reference not set to an instance of an object.. Stack trace:<br />
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.Performance.MessageProcessingPerformanceCounterManager.ClearPerformanceCounters()<br />
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.Lookup.LookupServer.ClearPerformanceCounters()<br />
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.ServerBase.Start()<br />
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.MAServiceBase.startServer()<br />
at Microsoft.Rtc.Internal.Chat.Server.ServerCommon.MAServiceBase.createAndStartServer()<br />
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)<br />
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart().</p>
<p>Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated</p>
<p>Thanks in advance</p>
<p>on 07 Mar 2010 at 4:02 pm34Chaosnature<br />
Update to my service none starting issues, 1st i changed the account service to administrator which had more rights than other account , and started the services and they started, but they only start one at a time, the two services would not stay on running at the same time, then i added all rights to the ocschat account and restarted the services again this time they started,</p>
<p>so i am not sure what account member is missing yet that stoped the GC services from starting, i will use process of elimination later to find that out….</p>
<p>but now i still cannot logon to the GC server as administrator<br />
i get:</p>
<p>Cannot sign in. Your sign-in address, server settings, or password may be incorrect. If your sign in information is correct and the problem persists, please contact your system administrator.</p>
<p>and nothing on the GC Event log server, any ideas?</p>
<p>i also am now running the SQL on the same server as the GC, i previously was using the same as my OCS front end server,<br />
Question,…what is the pool name when u are using an SQL server on the same GC server which is a memeber server? is it the FQDN of the server it self?….my OCS pool name is ocspoo.ct.com…..my GC server name is Main.ct.com….my GC instance i created was name GCPool on the member server. what then is the Pool name of this GC SQL? or do i have to create a pool using the installation cd? cos right now i had to fill in the gap using my ocs pool i created for my FE server…</p>
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		<title>By: Marcin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all nice, but why Microsoft didn&#039;t check if OCSR2GCC (OCS R2 Group Chat Client) supports international characters. MOC does support it well, what is more you can copy&amp;paster text with international characters into Group Chat Client window and it will be sent and displayed correctly. The only thing is you cannot enter them from keyboard, as in my case keyboard layout of Polish Programmers works the way that Polish characters are entered with right Alt and corresponding letter, i.e. to display &#243; you hold Alt and press o. This sucks big time and made Group Chat completely useless in my country. it would be even better if when Alt-o is pressed Group Chat would display simply &#039;o&#039;, but it just doesn&#039;t display anything. 
 
Marcin </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all nice, but why Microsoft didn&#039;t check if OCSR2GCC (OCS R2 Group Chat Client) supports international characters. MOC does support it well, what is more you can copy&amp;paster text with international characters into Group Chat Client window and it will be sent and displayed correctly. The only thing is you cannot enter them from keyboard, as in my case keyboard layout of Polish Programmers works the way that Polish characters are entered with right Alt and corresponding letter, i.e. to display &oacute; you hold Alt and press o. This sucks big time and made Group Chat completely useless in my country. it would be even better if when Alt-o is pressed Group Chat would display simply &#039;o&#039;, but it just doesn&#039;t display anything. </p>
<p>Marcin</p>
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		<title>By: Espryte</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2009/03/08/office-communications-server-2007-r2-group-chat-deployment-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-7769</link>
		<dc:creator>Espryte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill Gates

there are better products from MS for sure, but they bought MindAlign with the effect that the software is actually payable. IT was at least 100k USD before!

I&#039;m sure the next version will be nice and include proper documentation..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill Gates</p>
<p>there are better products from MS for sure, but they bought MindAlign with the effect that the software is actually payable. IT was at least 100k USD before!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the next version will be nice and include proper documentation..</p>
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		<title>By: Elan Shudnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elan Shudnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be on the same server.  It should also be able to be hosted in the same instance.  You can also use the same database for both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be on the same server.  It should also be able to be hosted in the same instance.  You can also use the same database for both.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dilip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we have the DB for the GC Chat and Compliance on the same OCS Backend server or does it need to be on a differrent physicaql/virtual server?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we have the DB for the GC Chat and Compliance on the same OCS Backend server or does it need to be on a differrent physicaql/virtual server?</p>
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		<title>By: Gill Bates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gill Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Group chat is a steaming pile of horse shit... as usual MS documentation and reality don&#039;t jive.</description>
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