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	<title>Comments on: Office Communications Server 2007 Enterprise Deployment - Part 1</title>
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	<description>Just another IT guy!</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Elan Shudnow</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-5739</link>
		<dc:creator>Elan Shudnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, 

Thanks.  I'd set it on either the Access Edge or the Web Conferencing Edge NIC.

Elan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, </p>
<p>Thanks.  I&#8217;d set it on either the Access Edge or the Web Conferencing Edge NIC.</p>
<p>Elan</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-5738</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
excellent guide, however I do not fully understand, how to use four NICs on the edge. On which of the NICs do I configure the default gateway?
thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
excellent guide, however I do not fully understand, how to use four NICs on the edge. On which of the NICs do I configure the default gateway?<br />
thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: jordanturner</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-4456</link>
		<dc:creator>jordanturner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elan, you just shook the rust off...  


OPTION 1:
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In essence, that was the simple answer.  There is a physical port on the firewall; 3rd port.  Typically it is used for DMZ which can be used for my second set of public ip ranges for OCS use.  Another way could be have a hub of the first port which the Edge Server hangs off of (option 2 below).  


OPTION 2:
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 Internet---Router---Firewall--------------------LAN Switch------Internal Computers
 **************Firewall----Hub on public interface port--------Edge Server

On the firewall, I would just create a rule that alows that 1 public ip for the Edge Role (A/V) to communicate with internal OCS servers.


Thanks again for inspiring and bringing clarity.  These options above are SORELY missing or lacking in simplicity in Microsoft Documents or anywhere else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elan, you just shook the rust off&#8230;  </p>
<p>OPTION 1:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
In essence, that was the simple answer.  There is a physical port on the firewall; 3rd port.  Typically it is used for DMZ which can be used for my second set of public ip ranges for OCS use.  Another way could be have a hub of the first port which the Edge Server hangs off of (option 2 below).  </p>
<p>OPTION 2:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
 Internet&#8212;Router&#8212;Firewall&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;LAN Switch&#8212;&#8212;Internal Computers<br />
 **************Firewall&#8212;-Hub on public interface port&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Edge Server</p>
<p>On the firewall, I would just create a rule that alows that 1 public ip for the Edge Role (A/V) to communicate with internal OCS servers.</p>
<p>Thanks again for inspiring and bringing clarity.  These options above are SORELY missing or lacking in simplicity in Microsoft Documents or anywhere else!</p>
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		<title>By: Elan Shudnow</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-4454</link>
		<dc:creator>Elan Shudnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan, I'm not a firewall administrator, but my take on it, is that you can create a dedicated port on your firewall that is set to route traffic destined to a certain IP directly to a server.  This way, you can still have the A/V Edge that has a public IP address behind your firewall instead of having it directly on the internet.  Sorry I can't give you a better answer here.  And thanks for the positive comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan, I&#8217;m not a firewall administrator, but my take on it, is that you can create a dedicated port on your firewall that is set to route traffic destined to a certain IP directly to a server.  This way, you can still have the A/V Edge that has a public IP address behind your firewall instead of having it directly on the internet.  Sorry I can&#8217;t give you a better answer here.  And thanks for the positive comments.</p>
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		<title>By: jordanturner</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-4453</link>
		<dc:creator>jordanturner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elan, I've looked high and low for an excellent document like this.  Thanks, now you just simplified the Edge sample configurations for me in less than 1 page!  Why can't Microsoft documents be like yours?

Since I am not a firewall person, and I only have 3 interfaces to work with (only Standard Setup with 2 servers), how do you propose I configure this?  I have 10 public ip's; 1 for the external interface if SonicWall, and 4 public ip's as one-to-one NAT (208.x.x.x).  The 2nd interface is my for my internal LAN (192.168.18.x).  The last interface is not used for DMZ at all.  Please note I only have two servers to work with for 50 users for OCS 2007.

How would you propose I configure my firewall to accomodate this - not how, but sample diagram or setup?  My immediate question is how can I have an Edge server with a public ip with NO NAT at all - like one-to-one NAT?!  How to do this with my setup?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elan, I&#8217;ve looked high and low for an excellent document like this.  Thanks, now you just simplified the Edge sample configurations for me in less than 1 page!  Why can&#8217;t Microsoft documents be like yours?</p>
<p>Since I am not a firewall person, and I only have 3 interfaces to work with (only Standard Setup with 2 servers), how do you propose I configure this?  I have 10 public ip&#8217;s; 1 for the external interface if SonicWall, and 4 public ip&#8217;s as one-to-one NAT (208.x.x.x).  The 2nd interface is my for my internal LAN (192.168.18.x).  The last interface is not used for DMZ at all.  Please note I only have two servers to work with for 50 users for OCS 2007.</p>
<p>How would you propose I configure my firewall to accomodate this - not how, but sample diagram or setup?  My immediate question is how can I have an Edge server with a public ip with NO NAT at all - like one-to-one NAT?!  How to do this with my setup?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: JSchmales</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-4444</link>
		<dc:creator>JSchmales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the reference. I have already been successful with configuring ISA Server 2006 for Reverse Proxy but have been unsuccessful in configuring ISA to allow the Office Communicator 2007 (non-web-based client) to connect to the internal OCS 2007 Server through ISA and an AE in a perimeter network. In your article, you mentioned you weren't going to test this scenario due to "resources".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reference. I have already been successful with configuring ISA Server 2006 for Reverse Proxy but have been unsuccessful in configuring ISA to allow the Office Communicator 2007 (non-web-based client) to connect to the internal OCS 2007 Server through ISA and an AE in a perimeter network. In your article, you mentioned you weren&#8217;t going to test this scenario due to &#8220;resources&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Elan Shudnow</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-4443</link>
		<dc:creator>Elan Shudnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not documented this.  Here is the documentation on Technet which explains fairly well on the procedures you need to follow to configure your reverse proxy.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb663639.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not documented this.  Here is the documentation on Technet which explains fairly well on the procedures you need to follow to configure your reverse proxy.</p>
<p><a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb663639.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb663639.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: JSchmales</title>
		<link>http://www.shudnow.net/2008/06/08/office-communications-server-2007-enterprise-deployment-part-1/#comment-4442</link>
		<dc:creator>JSchmales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two parts of this topic were very helpful toward setting up a UM VM enviornment. Thank you. 

Question: Have you prepared any documentation that addresses the specific configuration of the ISA Server firewall policies that will allow external Office Communicator 2007 clients to connect through the ISA Server? I've been going around and around on this for a long time...

Ken Peterson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two parts of this topic were very helpful toward setting up a UM VM enviornment. Thank you. </p>
<p>Question: Have you prepared any documentation that addresses the specific configuration of the ISA Server firewall policies that will allow external Office Communicator 2007 clients to connect through the ISA Server? I&#8217;ve been going around and around on this for a long time&#8230;</p>
<p>Ken Peterson</p>
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		<title>By: Elan Shudnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elan Shudnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have everything assigned with static IP addresses.

So let's say we went with Method 1

Nic #1 - A/V Edge (Public IP)
Nic #2 - Access Edge (DMZ IP)
Nic #3 - Web Conferencing Edge (DMZ IP)
Nic #4 - Internal (Internal IP)

The Windows Operating System can only have 1 default route (0.0.0.0).  This default route's next hop is the default gateway.  Because of this, you have 2 options:
Option #1 - Ensure this default gateway knows how to route to the internet, your DMZ, and all internal subnets.  If it does, and you want to use this router, you will have to make sure all necessary ports are open.  If this is unacceptable to you and you do not want to open all the required ports to the internal network, you can go to option #2.
Option #2 - Ensure this default gateway knows how to route to the internet and DMZ.  For your internal subnets, you would create a static route to your internal network.  This way, you're creating a second gateway for certain traffic before it hits the default route.  This way, your internal traffic does not go through your edge router and goes directly from OCS to the internal router which would be more secure.  

For this custom route that routes traffic directly to a router on the inside of your corporate network, you would do something like:
route add 192.168.119.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.119.2

So in this command, we want to send traffic destined to the 192.168.119.x network that uses a subnet of 255.255.255.0 with the next hop (gateway) being 192.168.119.2 (our router on the internal corporate network).

Does this help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have everything assigned with static IP addresses.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s say we went with Method 1</p>
<p>Nic #1 - A/V Edge (Public IP)<br />
Nic #2 - Access Edge (DMZ IP)<br />
Nic #3 - Web Conferencing Edge (DMZ IP)<br />
Nic #4 - Internal (Internal IP)</p>
<p>The Windows Operating System can only have 1 default route (0.0.0.0).  This default route&#8217;s next hop is the default gateway.  Because of this, you have 2 options:<br />
Option #1 - Ensure this default gateway knows how to route to the internet, your DMZ, and all internal subnets.  If it does, and you want to use this router, you will have to make sure all necessary ports are open.  If this is unacceptable to you and you do not want to open all the required ports to the internal network, you can go to option #2.<br />
Option #2 - Ensure this default gateway knows how to route to the internet and DMZ.  For your internal subnets, you would create a static route to your internal network.  This way, you&#8217;re creating a second gateway for certain traffic before it hits the default route.  This way, your internal traffic does not go through your edge router and goes directly from OCS to the internal router which would be more secure.  </p>
<p>For this custom route that routes traffic directly to a router on the inside of your corporate network, you would do something like:<br />
route add 192.168.119.0 mask 255.255.255.0 192.168.119.2</p>
<p>So in this command, we want to send traffic destined to the 192.168.119.x network that uses a subnet of 255.255.255.0 with the next hop (gateway) being 192.168.119.2 (our router on the internal corporate network).</p>
<p>Does this help?</p>
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		<title>By: like2learn</title>
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		<dc:creator>like2learn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good article.

could you please explain in more detail the part for the IP configuration for TCP/IP please? sorry i don't understand :)

is the default gateway assigned by VMWare?

thanks, appreciate help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good article.</p>
<p>could you please explain in more detail the part for the IP configuration for TCP/IP please? sorry i don&#8217;t understand :)</p>
<p>is the default gateway assigned by VMWare?</p>
<p>thanks, appreciate help.</p>
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